The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #70467   Message #1203311
Posted By: Metchosin
09-Jun-04 - 03:19 AM
Thread Name: BS: So carry on then with the abuse....
Subject: RE: BS: So carry on then with the abuse....
I've read this thread too and I see nothing particularly hateful or self satisfying.

What I do see are some fine Americans outraged, remorseful and angry that the current US administration appears to believe that it is above the laws of the land and and also appears to be searching for legal loopholes so that it can extricate itself from inconvenient international conventions to which it's a signatory.   

That some are angry is understandable to me. America has always viewed its form of government as the epitomy of the democratic ideal and viewed itself as a torch bearer in the field of human rights and at times with a good deal of justification.

It is easy to abide by civilized rules when things are going well, it's when the chips are down that it becomes difficult not to stoop to the lowest common denominator. However, it is during tough times when those very ideals are most needed as a beacon, or else, what the hell is the point?

The folk community is rife with angry men and women and has been forever so. The protest song is an intregal part of the folk process of those angry men and women, particularly in North America and sometimes, when there is a message in the music, sorry, but it just ain't funny.

Some angry folks

Pete Seeger

Bruce Cockburn

Bob Dylan

And some young and old angry folks

Smith/Seeger/DJ Spooky