I never smoked 'em, LH, and neither did those I thought of as strong minded individualist women. IF they did, it was scarcely because of that stupid slogan! :>)

So marketing is clever and insidious. Marketing is not the same as the political system.

I don't think marketing per se is a cause of stupidity although it may exaggerate it by taking advantage of it and focusing on it.

As for socialism being an ideal system of gummint, wal, I'll pass.

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