Bruce if you really are coming from a humanitarian perspective then thats great, but maybe you ought to look a little deeper in the issues and ask a few questions. For example, why Iraq? Why then? Why not some other country at some other time? If you can find me answers to them then I will be more inclines to listen to your point of view.

Or are you of the opinion that the real reasons and timing for Iraq being attacked are irrelevant to you as long as one of the tyrants is gone - you don't mind what the ulterior motives were as long as one of the bastards is taken out of action?

I really want to know, I find it helpful to know what premises a person is arguing from when I discuss issues with them.