I think it's time we called a halt to this one. No-one's listening, no-one's winning. I give you people the benefit of my long, hard experience, you rubbish it (and yes, McGrath, I can tell you they ACTUALLY DO give it away - and your disbelief in your last post has given the game away on what a sheltered Airy-Fairy Cloud Cuckoo Land you must live in).

Brucie, you insult me by your inference that I haven't the balls to defend my kids. You don't know what we've been through and I'm not about to broadcast it here, but if you think I'm a weak-kneed wuss you couldn't be more wrong. I assre you I can look after myself, and I've defended myself very successfully on more occasions than I care to remember, but lots of people have tried the tough-guy act with these people and failed - you can't punch someone's lights out when a gang of his cronies have already punched you silly, or kneecapped you, or shot you from the back window of a moving vehicle. It's dead easy to be a Big Guy on a Mudcat Thread. As I told you all before, you should meet some of them - the Real Ones, not their little pissy-pants druggie messenger-boys.

What I tell you now is that, when cannabis is legalised (as it undoubtedly will be within the next ten years) and the horrible truth emerges, it'll give me no joy to say to you Planet Zog-dwellers "I told you so".

Now I'm outta here. Too much effort for too little gain.