Doug...I'm NOT impressed with Bev & Jerry's post...except for the comment about Johnson and Viet Nam, most of those statements were silly distortions of what actually happened....and Johnson had 'some' extentuating circumstances, even though he mis-judged a lot. (Did you eve listen to the tapes of LBJ discussing Viet Nam with various people and agonizing about what he could do and how trapped he felt?)

But Truman & Roosevelt 'starting' wars? Give me a break!