A lot depends on having someone around that can do all the upgrading. I aquired a carload of superannuated computers from head office, and Jim has cobbled 3 or 4 wokable systems together with minimum outlay, they are all 486's. He has also assimilated various bits and pieces into his synthesizer/recording system. The Borg with the KORG!!!! (I just thought of that!) The machine I'm using now is ancient, but perfectly adequate. Hwyl, Bron.