OK Ron,   But Im of the opinion that facts dont exist,and the word itself is only used as a means of manipulation,like "Democracy","Accountability" "Freedom""Fulfillment",   Need I go on?
The only truth is that ache in your heart when you just know something is wrong ,...Like the war in Iraq..
You dont have to be a rocket scientist to know they are lying through their teeth,and their lies have made us all complicit in the deaths and mutilation of hundreds,or thousands of innocent men women and children.
All the arseholes on this forum who complain about all the politics and Iraqi threads ,should listen to Dougie McLeans beautiful song "What have they done".Although it was not written for the Iraq war, it applies perfectly,and you know Dougie means every word.
We need a bit more fury, Weve become a nation of wimps....Ake