I was trying to say it's possible to have some pretty heated arguments with people without hating them.

Clinton, a couple of the problems with moderation are, who would you trust to do it, and how would you make them do it?

We're either going to have to do some serious moderation or let this place get a lot worse (if it CAN get worse) until the (hopefully) normally good people get de-sensitized or at least decide not to respond to every bit of nastiness. At present, I'd be too embarrassed to recommend this place to anyone. I think when Max decided not to limit discussion to only music, he expected a bit more than the lot of us are capable of.