poppa gator, I absolutely agree, but my point is, however inadeguate I seem to be at making it, is, "well, we all gotta start somewhere," Everyone has a role in the big picture ,and trying to put it all on our lack of healthcare, transportation, time off, etc may well be the case, but everyone can do their part to make positive change. It is not enough to just say, "we need change, and it is all the other guy who needs to do it." I am not trying to be inflammatory in my dialog and I hope you take this in the spirit it is intended.