Bill H. I would be interested in knowing what your credentials are for slamming the "self-serving patriots", who are going to be sued if possible, slandered, possibly have their lives threatened, harrassed in every way possible. They are speaking the truth as they saw it. It might not be the truth that others saw. I believe everyone who has a stake in this as I have no way of determining anything. If you were there I am sure you must and I defer to you. As a veteran, as a officer with the Army Transportation Corps who put out troops equivalent to the Swifties of the Navy, I do not wish to have their characters maligned, unless you have some superior, on-the ground, or on the river knowledge that I personally do not have. I believe everything Kerry's team said, I believe everything the others said and if there are conflicts so be it. mg