mack, either you misread, or I miscommunicated, or maybe we're just ships passing in the night. ;-)

I said my political values were reflected in grassroots, bottom up organizing hence my supporting candidates at the top of the ticket who help those at the bottom of it.

That is where the Greens are currently at in my state, where we have them on city councils, county commissions, and park boards. Voting for the Green candidate at the top of the ticket in 2000 helped insure they got matching funds to get elected in 2002 in two of the three largest cities in the state, which in turn, helps fund the party building at the local level.

You believe that Green and Nader voters are trying to split the liberal vote. I don't accept that. I believe the Democrats have become so anti-democratic in their attempts to disposses and co-opt the progressive left, that they can't be trusted, much less given my vote. Especially when you get a peek at who the Democratic party is sleeping with to keep the charade going.

I don't have a problem with leaving the duopoly behind this election, or any election. And I've got news for y'all--I never voted for Clinton either.