surely DougR gets enough stick without Amos laying into him before he's even posted? Anyway, I'm kind of glad he's no longer a lone voice here, because a sizeable proportion of Americans obviously think as he does (so far as such a stance can result from "thought").

The miniscule finds that Larry's alking about didn't add up to a row of beans, which is why not even Bush/Cheney have claimed they found WMD. WMD PROGRAMS are something else entirely - never offered to the UN by Powell as a basis for starting a war, and with good reason. Both US and UN experts are pretty much agreed that Iraqi infrastructure after the earlier war, the effect of sanctions and the chaos-inducing nature of the Saddam regime over the past 10 years militated against any prospect of developing a serious program.

I hope the report on which Doug relies (and which I have not read) is honest enough to make clear that any training facility or other co-operation with Al Qaeda was confined to those havens in which Saddam's writ did not run - ie the no-fly zones.