The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #4101   Message #126915
Posted By: Chet W.
22-Oct-99 - 03:57 PM
Thread Name: Origins: Sugar Babe (Mance Lipscomb, Tom Rush, etc
Subject: RE: sugar babe
The version I used to do my partner learned from the Jonathan Edwards album. He sang the verses so I don't remember all of them, but I don't think we did any that were violent. I'll try to find it on one of our old tapes.

Yes it's true that a lot of old songs contain themes and images that today seem a lot less appropriate than they may have way back then. I do a lot of changing words, too. About as ugly (musically) as I ever get is "Frankie and Johnny", the Charlie Poole version where "Frankie put her finger on the 44 and the gun went Rootie-toot-toot, and Johnny fell...".

Back in the historic 1980's there was a rap album that was actually banned in our county by the Solicitor (District Attorney), so I went and bought it just because he said I couldn't. But when I listened to it (this was probably the first non-Jamaican rap I had ever heard) it literally made me sick. It was by 2LiveCrew, and the "songs" were all about horrible, inhuman violence to women presented in such a way that it was apparently meant to be normal, or even funny. I smashed it with a hammer. That was a turning point for me. There really is no comparison.

Chet