Cllr - not true. I'm still vertical and breathing and avoiding Ampthill. However, not avoiding Mudcat although only as a guest at the moment (work internet can be SO helpful). Found out about it from the likes of Leadfingers and the Admiral and found it both useful and entertaining and slightly addictive. Did have a dodgy moment some time ago when I typed in Mudchute instead of Mudcat and found myself up Bow Creek without a paddle and had to wait for the tide to float me back.