Ok, A great Cook's Tour, didn't find exactly what I wanted, but found other useful things and sorted out what the real problem was... :-)

1) No simple easy place found with ALL the codecs listed - a few places including MS that promised you bundles of "all of them" !!!! that would self install...

2) No Utils found that did exactly what I wanted - but I did find some progs that would play the file mentioned above, but they would not identify what the codec was... BUT the GNU project Media Player would play the damn thing!

3) Finally found Filealyzer - same guy as Spybot - it identified the file with the .wav extension (I didn't change the extension! that's the way the dnld went!) as a MP3 file!!! Changed the extension and all the various media players on my system worked ok!

Filealyzer won't play a preview of midi files, or wav files, or mp3 files as yet, but it will read the 'magic' and tell you the RIFF details of wav files (the encoding stuff which lets you get the right codec) - it also works on the Video 'magic' stuff too - but it doesn't directly say 'needs XXXX codec'.

The GNU media player ignores the extension and looks for the 'magic' in the file, which is why it works.

Robin