Roger,

If you take responsibility for your individual communications with Joe, it will create an effect. If you do not, continuing to pump out sulfurous spiels of rococo blame and shame, then that too will create an effect. You will lives with the results of your choices. Frankly, you do not seem happy, in spite of the Herculean efforts you have made. Perhaps a reassessment is in order of how to effectively relate to others in this community.

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