If one is not brought down by the prospects that have saddened this good man who started this perceptive thread, I suspect you, for some strange reason, are enjoying the views from where you are of the constitution of the United States being trivialized and diminished in the name of national security. I, for one, can understand his expressed negativeity and anxiety.

May you live in interesting times.--the old curse, is made profound in difficult times. The saddest times make the best films in retrospect. Watching those sad films of previously real historical times are SAFE only in retrospect. But people undergoing the "interesting times" are, at best, are saddened by those moments on the time line. At worst they are killed by them.

Art Thieme