I agree, if a thing isn't broken, don't fix it. but then it's a bit like people who complain about TV programmes, no one forces them to watch.I'm not a musician but i have come to love Mudcat for the friendly atmosphere and I would like to thank gg for the good advice he gave me on my BS thread on giving up smoking. I can't say I've noticed a gang of twelve, more like a gang of 100.Viv