Then it should start with you. You have attacked, you have chastised, you have spoken down to, anyone who disagrees with you. On any number of occasions I have offered to just debate the issues, free of the invective, and you have responded with filthy language and demeaning comments. It is you who attacks anyone who doesn't agree with you. It is you that is the cause of most of the bloodletting that occurs. If you would like it to stop, then I challenge you to say now, in this thread, that you won't participate in it any longer.

You should have noticed that when you are making decent arguments, even though they run counter to my philosophy, I haven't attacked you.

Nice of you to finally come to this.

Mick