I agree with Greg too. I have had an experience where I started a thread only to be told that the subject had been discussed before. I felt that the tone used by the a**hole in question was inappropraite and rude. The long and the short of it is that the discussion continued and lots of folks contributed some great information to the topic being discussed. I think that the Mudcat is like a community gathering place, where you sit around the table having a chat or a debate. If you don't like the discussion or you've been in a similar one recently then you're free to get up and go to another table. There's always plenty being discussed at other tables. Just my 2 cents, Den.