...you beat me to it Azizi...:o), nowhere in this thread have the "measures, beats and tune" of either song been compared nor has it been suggested they are in any way similar, this thread has simply become a discussion of two completely different songs which have come (for whatever reason) to be identified with the scout and guiding movement...

I wouldn't (unfortuantely) be at all surprised if political correctness castrates a nonsense song like the "Ging Gang"...I've seen and heard of stupider things in its name...

Fee (not serious all of the time and proud of it)