Good to see you coming around, Don. One thing I haven't changed my mind on, is attempting to wrest control of the Democratic party back from it's DLC Republicrat wing. They will, especially in light of the coming siege from the left, only become more entrenched in their positions and control of the party's purse-strings, for all the elections in the forseeable future.

Nope, it is time to start organizing a vanguard movement outside any political party, Green, Democrat or any. Putting pressure on from within will only take the progressive causes so far, because the Democrats don't have anything left to bargain with--the blew the entire wad this election year.

It's going to be years, possibly generations, organizing in the political wilderness to reverse the grip of the global capitalist empire. And no one should think this will come without a bloody, violent fight. Look at what is happening as a result of the US' imperial reachm right now in the Middle East, in Africa, in much of Asia, and Latin America.    Look at the state of nuclear proliferation. The state of global warming and catastophic weather changes.

Nope, we are never going to be able to wrest control of the US away from the global capitalist oligarchy by voting alone. That is just too naive. We will have to organize, organize, organize outside the system, take the battle for the soul of the US to the streets, knowing we at least have the backing of the progressive movements around the world. International coalition building between the US and the rest of the world on the progressive left has just become hugely important. That kind of organizing can never be done within the two party political system of the US. We have to wrest control of the country away from the political class, not join them AGAIN, in hand wringing.