I'd suggest the brainstorming on how to help fits better on the Jessica and the Bureaucrats thread. With this thread being for any stuff about wider issues, such as other examples of this kind of thing happening; and also as a place for anyone who wants to argue about whether they think people should help or not.

That way, if people try to start or continue those kind of arguments on the help thread, it's crystal clear they are just trolling. And if it goes on here, they don't get in the way so much.