Little Hawk,

you are playing word games as you often like to do. If you only meant the trivial meaning of 'greater than us' there weas no need to introduced that meaning into a thread about religion. Of course it is trivially true that e.g. a team is stronger than an individual player etc. Those who have objected to Ebbie first using 'greater' in a post have obviously meant that they (including me) do not think that there is some greater being in the sense of a god and that there is nothing supernatural around us.

SRS has quoted a definition: religious belief: a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny which makes a lot of sense in this thread. Of course you can insist that you use any word in a completely different sense than dictionaries do. But by using the same word for different things the differences do not go away they only get blurred. Using only the word 'apples' for e.g. apples and oranges will not make differences disappear.

As Spock said in many Star Trek episodes: "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." That is the recognition of something greater than oneself. That is the recognition that moved Joan of Arc, Abraham Lincoln, Gandhi, Einstein, and every other great benefactor of the human race that has ever lived.
"You are nothing, your country is everything" was how that thought was expressed in Germany 60odd years ago (just to widen the range of benefactors of mankind a bit).

Betsy, I'm on the (never ending) search for certainty on the level of facts, I'm not on the level of evaluation, ethics, moral decisions etc. On these levels I can live with a lot of uncertainty.

My wife and I are both not religious but we send our daughter to the religious instruction in school. She will be able to decide for herself later. But when she asked me last year whether there is a god I told her the truth.

you do not have to be mentally ill to be irrational (Athiest; is that the superlative to 'atheist'? (grin))
Never forget that you also can be rational and mentally ill. To overstate it drastically (but not without a true core): Psychosis is the illness of the religious, depression that of the unreligious.

Wolfgang