Non-religious people, I've noticed, always couch their arguments in this form...they automatically assume that religious (or spiritually-minded) people MUST, by definition, believe things they consider ridiculous...like "virgin birth", "parting seas, guys coming back from the dead, angels, sky gods, heaven and hell"...and so on...

Well PISS OFF! You self-important, self-satisfied, self-congratulatory pricks!

cheers for that LH, and there was I thinking 'we understood' each other. Nevermind.