Try these they had me ROTFLMAOAHMS it if is just for the craic, as LtS says tho' Sheperds watch their flocks to Ilkley moor is very effective. especially if you have good singers, Liz the Squeak, because of all this choir stuff sings wonderful descant onall kinds of stuff, You should here her when we sing "Oh my darling clementine" to the tune of "Bread of Heaven" (Sorry Bron, he says running for cover0 @parody @pagan filename[ FALSPAGN @parody @Xmas @seasonal filename[ HARIXMAS