Do please Martin Gibson alone, now.

Almost all observers come to the conclusion that Martin lost his religious beliefs a long time ago, and now rants and raves like all others who had faith, and now deny themselves the comfort of the faith that they once had.

One day he will rturn to being the kind and good gentleman he used to be.    You can see signs of this starting to happen when you read any of his threads in the non-B.S. section.

Screaming abuse back at him in this section will not help him in any way, and may actually worsen his condition.

He is a member of our community, and therefore deserves our understanding and our patience.

Amos, on the other hand, has no excuse, and is fair game for tormenting in any way you can think of.