GUEST:

I have a problem with your initiating post. First of all, no handle. You can preserve your anonymity while establishing a reference, and you should, particularly when you start a thread.

There is a certain amount, a LARGE amount, of self-serving in presenting yourself as a victim (by association) of hate while presenting your opponents as hateful. Need I remind anyone this is one of the common attributes of the White Power movement, but a common enough technique of extremists through the ages.

I was a fan of Sen. Wellstone, without knowing him or his activites that well. He was one of those people one is glad is 'out there', raising the quality of the debate. I remember the tragedy of the accidental deaths of Sen. Wellstone and members of his entourage and family, not to mention aircraft crew, as they were landing. I remember a somewhat confusing memorial function which was critiqued as to whether it was a true memorial for Wellstone and the spirit of his work, or a political gambit. It seemed to be not quite a dignified ceremonial commemmorance, not quite a rally. This confusion was represented in the press, and I shared it.

I am not a regular listener to Rush Limbaugh and I do not consider him a neocon; the term seems to be relative to the person who uses it. I have no idea what 'savagery' is being referred to in the wake of Sen. Wellstone's passing.

There have been some intriguing and interesting posts to this thread and I would have more to say, but the confusion introduced at the very inception by Guest has contributed to 'thread muddle'.