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Thread #77146   Message #1396397
Posted By: Pogo
01-Feb-05 - 09:46 PM
Thread Name: BS: A question for Mormons
Subject: RE: BS: A question for Mormons
Well...what is your opinions on man's understanding of God's existence and God's understanding of His own existence?

What do we see from where we are? What does God see from where He is? We know about beginnings, middles and ends. We can understand yesterday, today and tommorrow. God existed yesterday, he exists today and he will exist tommorrow. This is perhaps a very broad and simple statement. It doesn't take into consideration on how we comprehend time and how God comprehends time.

Remember the old story of the blind men and the elephant? Each man was right about what a elephant looks like according to the extent of his knowledge and his personal perceptions. They however could not see the elephant in his entirety.

The nature of God and the nature of man has both similarities and differences. In that doctrine you speak of I'd like to point out that there is no claim on God's position as the Father and the Creator of the Universe. We don't ' become ' God any more than a daughter could become her mother or a son could become his father.

But well I don't pretend to know how God became God. And perhaps this is knowledge one simply cannot fathom given the limited capacity of our understanding while we live on this earth. But I do know that Jesus said " Be ye therefore perfect even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. " and I do know that in 1st John 3:2 it says " Beloved , now are we the sons of God and it doth not yet appear what we shall be; but we know that when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is "

Those are difficult ideas both to ponder and to explain fully. I don't know that these thoughts are satisfactory answers to your question. If they aren't I'm truly sorry. I'm not sure how to put it all into words. But I personally believe that God would not have us do anything unless he knew we had the capacity to do it within us or else that he was preparing a way for us to achieve it. I believe that I am a child of God the same as we all are. Being so, we have obligations and responsibilties as children of God and yet we are not strangers in his household. We have within us something that is also a part of God Himself. Now...what do we do with it? Is it like the one talent give to the servant? Is it made to just sit there and do nothing? What do you think?

Observe our universe sometime. It's only one of God only knows how many. There's action going on all the time. Stars are born, stars collapse and die. Planets form from the dust of other planets and in turn cease to exist. There's this constant cycle of birth and rebirth. Where does it begin? Where does it cease to exist? I dunno. But I guess you could apply the same thinking to who and what God is.

The knowledge inherent in the human soul goes deeper than the knowledge of the human brain :) Just my rambly, disjointed thoughts. Hell...I'm not even sure what I'm thinking. But I'm trying my best to put it into words for ya.