This is not a cheap shot, Josh, or an attempt to get a rise. But if you genuinely repudiate all the stuff above, why refresh it by adding to a thread that's been dormant for two months? Particularly since your post of 09:41 doesn't really have anything to do with anything that has come previously. Wouldn't it perhaps be better to start a new thread on this topic? If you do I'll gladly join in a debate on the pros and cons of the coming election with you!