Back to where we started. Which ever way you throw this in the mixing bowl, the government will come out of it taking more money out of our pockets, either through direct tax or indirectly through increased beer prices. It is time that the initiators of the problem were taken to task, and all labour voters informed their local labour councillors that their support/vote was being withdrawn. It's possible that a separate thread could be set up to register that we are prepared to follow our conviction