Ron-   you said the ball is in my court so here is my response.

You accused me of being a Bushite for the State of the Union quotes. The problem is those words weren't spoken by Bush.   They were from Bill Clinton.   The first paragraph from Clintons 1997 SOTU. The second from his 1998 SOTU.   So explain how I am a Bushite for quoting Bill Clinton.

Yes- I know you thought I was quoting Bush.   It just shows that your hatred of Bush does not allow you to have logical thought and analysis on what is actually being said.   You all prooved my point very well.

When Amos, Bobert, and Ron all thought the Bill Clinton statement was phoney, it might have been the first time in history we all agreed on a subject.   I am curious, were there Mudcat threads in 1997 and 1998 following Clintons proposals on saving Social Security?    Did the people who oppose Bush also opposed Clintons plans?

I did the math.   I would prefer to keep my own money.