My embarrassed apologies to those of you in Europe. I had not realized, obviously. By "this gathering" I meant the mudcats et al, you all, them there, we-uns, etc.

I am in the desert above Palm Springs CA, although my picture in the mudcat album is in a hotel in Reno NV. I am happy to meet all of you, and thanks for answering my question. I have enjoyed your posts a lot. (I may even make it down to Costa Mesa some evening...)