It's because the great mass of the population either doesn't care or doesn't know enough about an issue to make an informed decision, so it's up to those who do know and care to stand up and debate the issue.

Civilised nation indeed. These are the words of an intelligent man and one probably far better educated than I am - who has just justified in debate - words to the effect that if a certain type of wild animal is going to be killed (because he has decided it is) there is nothing wrong with having a bit of sporting fun with the manner of its death.

A line of reasoning that made public executions the family fun day-out they once were.

I have come to the conclusion that far from it being a case of 'the great mass of the population' not caring or not knowng. These justifications - for the needless cruelty of chasing and killing foxes with dogs - are only made because 'the great mass of the population' have made a just and informed decision that prevents these few people from inflicting the creulty they think - because of their superior knowledge they have some right to inflict.

Ride (or walk) to hounds, dress-up as you wish and enjoy your social gatherings in the countryside by all means. I may even (try) to join your social groups. But please don't carry-on with the idea that the cruelty of chasing and killing a fox with dogs must play some part in all this.

The people have spoken. If you wish to change the law to allow this form of creulty to be inflicted - please be honest and present the arguement that it is only for your sporting fun. Please don't frighten and involve the many people (with real problems) who live and work in the country in any more bogus and well-funded campaigns.