I believe that a point is being missed here. It is NOT bs/non-bs that distrubs people the most. It is the lack of manners. I have been insulted more on this thread than any other I have been a part of because I have the nerve to say I felt people are less polite than before? I believe my point has been proven.

Snotty and bitching? I would not categorize Wolfgang, Joe, Dale, larmarca with either term.

I've posted far to much to this thread, so I won't do so again.