The best or perhaps worst example of lack of manners was a few years ago at Whitby when Warners and Walters were around they did the ultimate and... arrived...positioned themselves where the singaround was going...got their song finished it said we're a duo we need two sang again then...guess what... buggered off to another pub !! The worst thing that is happening at th moment is that the 'talented' offsprings of folkies are being 'marketed' by their parents perhaps before they have gained 'stagecraft'. Most are talented but some just are overhyped.