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Thread #79324   Message #1443416
Posted By: robomatic
25-Mar-05 - 08:12 AM
Thread Name: BS: A discussion - What is antisemitism? .
Subject: RE: BS: A discussion - What is antisemitism? .
Guest, Allen:

Your version of history is swiss-cheese like, holy and unreliable (unless you bring in some reputable sources. While I tend to agree with the thrust of your comments, your assertions seem to me to be web-myths, viz:

Your earlier assertion that European Jews are descended mostly from an earlier tribe or tribes of converts. This is unproven and undocumented in any historical sense.

Your assertion that Egyptians were all copts which you later corrected to Coptic Christians. Well done.

The term Holocaust as applied to Russian pogroms. That's a new one for me. Bring a citation. The term Holocaust dates from the 1960s as far as I know.

Your inadequate recitation of history as to promoting the migrations of Jews to Israel. There were several waves of Jewish immigrants to the Holy Land, possibly the earlier ones spurred by pogroms, but the waves increased in size and the big ones followed WWI which had something even worse than pogroms, the Russian Civil War, where both sides (the Reds and the Whites) tended to kill a lot of Jewish civilians.

When you make the comment: "Beforehand it was the devastation wrought on the Jews of Germany during the Crusades." you are leaving the subject of Zionism, since Zionism dates from the late 19th century. You are also neglecting much persecution suffered due to peasant uprisings such as Chmielnitski, the Catholic Church sponsored Inquisition, etc. And you are also a bit wrong in that there was no such thing as Germany in the era you are talking about.

Again, your heart seems to be in the right place. But you seem to have few facts and a poor choice in telling fact from 'information'.