I think discussion about what is and what is not antisemitism doesn't really belong on this thread, especially since there is another thread up and running specifically about that, and I haven't recognised any examples of it on this thread. There've been a fair amount of flirting with bigotry, but not of that particular variety. Not that I've seen anyway - I just scroll past any posts without names, of course.

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I wish more people were able to adopt mary garvey's undogmatic approach in that last post - there's too much certainty about things we don't know, and too much selectivity about the things we do know, to bolster whatever side we have decided to come down on.