This has been a thought provoking thread and many valid points have been given on both sides. I do not believe as an englishwoman that I can deny the misdeeds of my forefathers and agree with inobu about the censorship of the past years. The Thatcher years destroyed this country and isolated from Europe and the rest of the world-She was a modern day imperialist no wonder the rest of the world thinks we are a cold and arrogant nation. We cannot change her legacy over night but thank god and pray hard that peace is on its way.I said in a previous thread that we do not care -that is not strictly true but was a prickly defense!. I do not associate Unionist bigotry with the kind of life that I lead in England. Irish Scottish and welsh live in the uk intermingle intermarry ad noone thinks anything of it. Hell, I even like the french!!!!!