Hi Guys, This is Der Echt Micca returninig to you, I will posst properly elsewhere, but what wonderful news especially on the day they let me home, Charles , Print the various threads and take them in to her, if its feasable, even my very professional nurses( at The Royal London) who have seen it all were impressed with the effect it had on my general wellbeing. However if she is in a situation or physical state where laughing may be akward/painful/etc give here Cletus' posts later. It hurt like hell and I laughed so hard the nurses came running!!!