you all will notice that those thread titles have NOT been censored yet! Joe and others who have the ability to do so have tried to thoroughly explore the issue and not go off half---ummmmm....

What many of us who have stated 'some' reservations to explicit thread titles are trying to do is request voluntary adherence to language in titles which would avoid the issue of 'censorship'. Several suggestions have been made ...any of which would work. I simply can't see why anyone would insist on having the most extreme title possible, when a less controversial one would do.

If John had used a toned down title, and then noted the precise words in the body, you wouldn't be demanding the more explict title, would you?