podman,

You apparently haven't ever participated in an anti-war demonstration if you think they are "loud shouting matches in the street"...

And, fir those of us who have demonstrated, we think of ourselves as the true patriots because we are doing what the folks who fought the War fir Independecns did: stand up to the bullies.... Plus, I'm sure Nixon wouldn't have finally seen that Nam was inwinnable if there hadn't been so many folks reminding him...

Bobert