Den - To say that "It has always been and will always be" in regards to the NI situation strikes me as defeatest, at best. Yes, there is a long and ugly history of apartheid there, and I recognize it won't change overnight. That said, I believe that it must and will change. Can you really imagine anything more stupid than hating people because they adhere to a different variety of the same faith? Yes, there is a lenghty history of christians killing christians in the name of christ, dating at least to the Albigensian crusades of the early 13th century. And I wouldn't be too surprised to find similar insanities in other faith communities as well, not to mention inter-faith killing. But the prevalence of the pattern doesn't change its fundamental stupidity.