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Thread #81145   Message #1484175
Posted By: GUEST,statesthetruthasheseesit
13-May-05 - 11:24 AM
Thread Name: Songs about The Potato Famine - Ireland
Subject: RE: Songs about The Potato Famine - Ireland
Muttley. There are probably loads of songs newly written about the Famine that happened in the 1840s!!!! The Irish love wallowing in self pity about ancient wrongs.(Grandmother 4 or 5 times removed , indeed!) No-one is denying the Great Famine happened - chill out, hey- and no-one is denying who was responsible. I will only say that all living Irishmen, and those of the 20th Century, have got off pretty lightly compaired to other people who have suffered greatly in that most violent of centuries. Even the English have suffered more than the Irish. Think of the bombing of London, Coventry, and Liverpool during World War II, which Ireland escaped completly - and yet you do not hear English songwriters writing about those experiances, even though there are people alive who remember them. There have been plenty of famines in the 20th century, but not in Ireland, and yet the Irish talk about famine as if it is an exclusively Irish affair, when really there is no Irishman alive who has experienced it and therefore has no idea what it is like. Ireland had a war of independence followed by a civil war which left most of the people untouched. Compare that with the civil war in Spain or Yugoslavia, which resulted in the countries being torn apart and great suffering being inflicted on their people. Even the problems in Northern Ireland are nothing in comparison with Ruwanda ('scuse spelling) or Yugoslavia. Ireland has never known Fascist or Communist dictatorship -or invasion.Has never known enthnic cleansing. Has never had death camps or a gestapo police force.

Muttley - get some perspetive.In other words, Shut the f**k up. We are fed up with your maudlin self pity and self righteous clap trap.