Sadly the person I was hoping to ask has moved and I have no contact details.
I do remember the phrase 'When grandpapa asked grandmama for the second minuet', so it might be useful to try this archive: ... WHEN GRANDPAPA ASKED GRANDMAMA FOR THE 2ND MINUET. www.bbcradioint.com/programmeSearch/archiveList. asp?CatCode=TSF&CatDesc=Features&searchMethod=key