Id actually like to know from all the Bush supporters, what would it take to change their minds in their blind support of this administration.

do they deny or disbelieve policies of rendition (sending terror suspects to be tortured in third countries) exist?

do they deny that Gonzales as White HOuse counsel prior to being appointed AG, actually issued a report stating that torture should be defined only when the act brings on 'organ failure?'
and that Geneva Convention should be brushed aside,

do they deny that Rumsfeld personally authorized 'torture lite' interrogation techniques which included the use of dogs, sexual humiliation etc.. (of course the lowest ranking soldiers always take the fall, with no one in any position of authority being charged with anything)

right now in Canada, Maher Arar (who, while changing flights, in the US was shipped to Syria where he was jailed and tortured for 2 years)
there is a public enquiry going on and he is also suing Rumsfeld and Ashcroft, so if it hasnt become news in the US it will.

they either deny it or they feel it is justified.

its hypocritical to talk about the democratic rights of the Iraqi people, all the while ignoring the democratic rights of the Uzbeks, where President for Life Islam Karimov (whose troops shot at demonstrators and killed 500 people two weeks ago) is Americas friend and ally and (beneficiary of 500$ Millions in aid since he provided air bases).

simple straightforward question, lets see if they can answer, without resorting to ad hominem attacks - in which case they are out of their depth and not worthy of further discussion.