We qualify I guess, though we aren't as self-sufficient as we'd like to be. We started a bit late. We share produce and raw materials (like animal manure and worms) with friends in the little town 15 kms away and with our widely scattered neighbours. Many people, around us, who've been on the land all their lives stay on when they become quite frail. In some ways there's a better support service here than in the city. A network of friends is more important here out Bush. You depend on each other. We love the isolation and the peace. Cheers, Joy