I still don't see why we can't have mixed sessions. P & I have been to some cracking singers / musicians sessions over the years in the Oxford / Oxfordshire area. Some might be suprised at this because I've been 'told' several times that musical instruments are banned from my sings - I have done no such thing. If you want to perform with an instrument then I encourage you to do so. All I ask is that you pay the respect to the next performer that you expect yourself. If you want to carry on normal conversation by shouting above the singers or musicians then go and find a football match to go to...