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Thread #16333   Message #151665
Posted By: McGrath of Harlow
19-Dec-99 - 08:18 PM
Thread Name: Lyr/Tune Add: Advent, Christmas
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune add- Advent, Christmas
Kyrie Eleison is Greek anyway.

It always struck as paradoxical that people talk about "Folk Masses" and such, while setting aside a genuine tradition.

Or rather several traditions, the old Latin church music, and the older Catholic hymns as well,the best of which have a style and tone which is very unlike anything you get in the hymns we share with other deonominations, and a peculiar power.

I remember at the funeral of my father's sister Cathy, who'd been a great traveller, at the graveside the priest said "Let's sing a song for the wanderer", and we all sang John Lingard's hymn:

"Hail Queen of Heav'n, the ocean star

Guide of the wanderer here below;

Thrown on life's surge, we claim thy care;
Save us from peril and from woe.
Mother of Christ, Star of the Sea,

Pray for the Wanderer, pray for me.

And it's not just Catholics who tended to dump tradition in this way - there's wonderful Moody and Sankey hymns which I believe have dropped out of use in Protestant churches. But at least some of these seem to be starting to emerge in folk song circles, (eg Coope Boyes and Simpson).

Moving away from prejudice and division shouldn't mean sacrificing traditions, it should mean sharing them.