ya know the other sad thing about this whole ordeal,is going to be the number of lawyers crawling out of the wood works looking to make a fast buck,plus the number of "book"deals that will pop up.    ps carolc,you want better insight into the moslim world,just ask the dutch.[i talked to a friend of mine(one of the few)in norway that i met in the late 70s while in the service,he told me that they are getting really feedup with "them"]. have a great day anyway